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Question about licensing

JWBShaw posted on 23 avr. 2025 #1
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I know how to read legalese but the massive user agreement on here is beyond me. Just need a simple question answered.

I'm writing a soundtrack. Are these tracks free to use for commercial release? I've downloaded a bunch and there's no metadata on them so I don't know who to credit even if credit or payment is due.
MySounds posted on 23 avr. 2025 #2
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JWBShaw wrote:
I know how to read legalese but the massive user agreement on here is beyond me. Just need a simple question answered.

I'm writing a soundtrack. Are these tracks free to use for commercial release? I've downloaded a bunch and there's no metadata on them so I don't know who to credit even if credit or payment is due.


No, all tracks found on and downloaded from Wikiloops are subject to the copyright restrictions set out in the user agreement. Basically you can not use any track outside of Wikiloops without prior consent from all involved musicians. If even one musician refuses to give consent or is simply unreachable (retired from Wikiloops, incapacitated or dead) you can`t even enter into any discussion regarding credits, fees etc.

I believe that there have been instances in the past where tracks were used without consent. Rumour has it that Dick took care of those cases with the help of a sharp knife. Personally I favour using a piano wire, but the result is quite similar.

It is even regarded as good practice to ask the other musicians for consent prior of any non-commercial use of their input.

On the bright side...if you have the track number (whoch should usually be part of the download file name) it should be possible to identify the involved musicians.
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rootshell posted on 23 avr. 2025 #3
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MySounds wrote:
JWBShaw wrote:
I know how to read legalese but the massive user agreement on here is beyond me. Just need a simple question answered.

I'm writing a soundtrack. Are these tracks free to use for commercial release? I've downloaded a bunch and there's no metadata on them so I don't know who to credit even if credit or payment is due.


I believe that there have been instances in the past where tracks were used without consent. Rumour has it that Dick took care of those cases with the help of a sharp knife. Personally I favour using a piano wire, but the result is quite similar.


I think the musicians involved get to inflict damage as well. I prefer that top E string, easy to grip, similar result as piano wire. Don't cross a drummer, I hear you basically become their kick drum.


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BluesyLucille posted on 24 avr. 2025 #4
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rootshell wrote:
MySounds wrote:
JWBShaw wrote:
I know how to read legalese but the massive user agreement on here is beyond me. Just need a simple question answered.

I'm writing a soundtrack. Are these tracks free to use for commercial release? I've downloaded a bunch and there's no metadata on them so I don't know who to credit even if credit or payment is due.


I believe that there have been instances in the past where tracks were used without consent. Rumour has it that Dick took care of those cases with the help of a sharp knife. Personally I favour using a piano wire, but the result is quite similar.




I think the musicians involved get to inflict damage as well. I prefer that top E string, easy to grip, similar result as piano wire. Don't cross a drummer, I hear you basically become their kick drum.


smile
It's an illusion to think that you'll never be used because downloading is free. Anyone who exposes himself or herself must expect that his or her piece can be used elsewhere. On the other hand, the least the user can do is mention the participants and the wikiloops platform. I've opted for this solution, but I'm prepared to delete any external publication at the request of a member. That seems fair enough, otherwise we'd block everything, but there'd be no more sharing.
Of course, commercial use without the creator's consent seems outrageous to me and can only appeal to everyone's honesty and common sense.

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