Who influenced your playing?

I have a good memory for sound, I often recognise people by their voices rather than their faces. Anyways, I was listening to Robert Fripp Frippertronics Demonstration 79 (see video below), and when it came to about 1:15 I went whoa. WHOA!!! This is how I would play it :o Now before anyone jumps on me, Robert Fripp has more talent in his right cut off toe nail than I ever will have - but I have been listening to King Krimson since I was 15, so maybe some of my playing is inspired by Fripp. But I never heard that piece before... So listen to Robert Fripp from around 1:15 , and then listen to my playing on a Herring King Band track, either from the beginning and from around 0:58 - I find it quite similar in feel and some licks - and again, I never heard that Fripptronics before... Music Magic.

Anyways, tell me what you think, am I delusional or what?? And let's have your influence with samples please :)


Roebert Fripp: (1:15)

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TeeGee (0:21 + 0:58)

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I had a friend in high school who was a huge Crimson fan and so being we shared albums I had albums like Court of the King,Red, Larks Tongue In Aspic etc. I give him he has extreme talent and I respect his playing but I dont want to sound like Im dissing him in anyway but it didnt connect like it did with you.

It may have been my friend trying to introduce me to Frippertronics and and just selecting the wrong examples. I have a huge respect for that band and him and I do enjopy his current channel on Youtube with his wife which is pretty entertaining. All Im saying is hes a great influence but I overlook their work when I really shouldnt.I was into Zeppelin, Stones and Who and I think I gravitated toward pure energy whereas Crimson is precision playing if that makes sense. Wasnt ready for that in my early teens . I was all about energy.But again...Great artist, great band to be an influence.

Oddly the EXACT moment I had the musical bug was put to film. I actually wrote the director, Cameron Crowe and he wrote back, telling him how the scene in the movie "Almost Famous " captured the EXACT way music hit me. Whats scary is that in this scene , when the needle drops on the album, it was that EXACT song, EXACT album , EXACT SPOT that I had a spiritual out of body experience in my preteens.
I cant stress enough ..this is EXACTLY how I discovered music except instead of it being my sister, it was my brother leaving for college and him leaving me his albums with recommendations . Just like in this scene , I dropped the needle on the Whos Tommy on that exact song , in the same spot and it blew me away. I was a sponge of music after that. I was obsessed with hearing every album I could get my hands on to repeat that high.

It freaked me out seeing this scene. If you have not seen this movie, it is the BEST rock movie capturing the entire early 70s ever made.

I used to touch albums like that, look at the albums like that, absorb everything like that...

The needle dropping on Tommy in that exact spot happened to me . It was a life changing experience.It went down exactly like this for me.
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Good topic, TeeGee :)



Yeah, I understand that moment and feeling too good.

For me, I grew up with bass players from Rock bands, like Roger Glover (Deep Purple), or Chris Squire (Yes). But later I turned over to more and more of Jazz, and while "real" Jazz fans dissed the album because of its string arrangements, one stood out for me, and really that's the one which turned me around for good. Not that I could sing or play a single note of George Benson's scat vocals and solo on this, but every note is like I felt and would probably have played it myself (those scat soli start at around 5:16 and again at 7:35 or so):

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And yes, that bass player - Stanley Banks according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Flight_(George_Benson_album) - isn't bad at all either, bravo to the man!

Myself, I was at the time mostly influenced by some who slapped the bass (like Stanley Clarke and later Marcus Miller), but the most influential one for me was definitely Jaco Pastorius, both with Weather Report and also with Joni Mitchell. Again, not that I could even remotely touch them, but, you know what I mean (I hope).

For me, I got one more thumbs up on a track from about three years ago lately, and that one was:

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It's singers who influence me at times, and I'd like to accompany and "play around" them as supportive as possible... happens with other instruments too, like my doubling of https://www.wikiloops.com/artist/SilverOne.php 's wonderful sax in #188673

This platform is wonderful, and I learn so much on it :) <3

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My first guitar teacher was a Benson fan and while I wanted hard rock, I had to play chords or else scales over that album. I didnt appreciate how great that album was until about 20 years later. I actually wrote him last year to tell him he didnt fail with me. I was just a bit slow.

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From a jamming in person standpoint, if anyone famous leaks out of my bass playing it would be Geddy Lee, of RUSH fame. I may not have played a lot in terms of venue time, but enjoyed plenty of practice sessions and jams to fill a lifetime of memories. A lot of my first cassette and cd hoarding involved the music of RUSH.

ADMIRATION OF Phil Lesh, Chris Wood of MMW, Tony Levin from a rock standpoint. Even if I was not Involved with anyone musically, I would often listen from a bass players perspective. Eventually becoming obsessed with the idea of the interactive bass line, constantly evolving and providing a playful counterpoint to what the melody players are doing.

It wasn’t jazz, but I could almost emulate it. Which was satisfying on the work weekend. Jazz albums I collected, and admired the playing of Scott Lafaro, Charles Mingus, and Ron Carter.

What I noticed picking it up again at WL, the music of Bill Laswell. I'd been listening to dub and dub influenced music. I'd been exposed Bill's music as a radio DJ at keos.org. Almost exclusively, if it started sounding like my rock favorites, I would stop playing and do something else. Also, I would often be practicing in ‘laswell’ vein and thinking about the effortless playing of Ron Carters. After awhile, I stopped that mode of musical life and gave up dubby things for the most part in favor of ambient and avant-garde synth techniques and drones.

Having sworn off the trappings of album collections. I’m not sure what to think about it all. But it happened...nowadays I catch commercial music on internet radio. Soma fm, or something re-streamed from filter.fm. I prefer not to be influenced in my synth skills now that I’ve put down the bass in favor of keyboards.

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Very interesting LW!! Thank you for sharing that. Musical taste is individual, that's for sure :).

I just want to comment on the teens thing. King Krimson and the "In the court of the Crimson King" Album, I listened to it as a teenager, but my appreciation of it grew the older I got - and I did understand more about it. Just to emphasize how much I appreciate that album, my Wiki-Band is called "The Herring King", and one of the first songs I wrote for the band was called "In the School of the Herring King" #134165

Same as with Zappa (I will expand on this in another post that I had planned to do on Zappa).

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In the Court of the Crimson King was my introduction to them. I had a small phase where that was my favorite album (which changed weekly back then).

I cant find it anymore but there was a Youtube video some girl did an animation for Moonchild which was absolutley beautiful.

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The song that stood out to me was of course 21st Century Schizoid man.It wasnt until years later I heard April Wines version which kicked off another Court of the Crimson King listen

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I have a friend who did a well known later Crimson song cover of "Discipline". He sequenced synths and its mind blowing. If I find it Ill send it to you.

Listening to 134165 right now. The Herring King was absolutley my favorite within the last year.

My friend who was into Crimson was also the Zappa fan between us.I borrowed everything off him. Joes Garage is my absolute fav. Probably also You Are What You Is, Hot Rats ,Tinsletown Rebellion, Zoot Allures, then the "You Cant Do That Onstage " series. Didnt get into a few of his late late stuff like Thing Fish or Studio Tan. I loved his solos so the instrumentals on Joes Garage really grabbed me.

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The girl in the video is Pam DesBarres

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I wish I could play like Hendrix. Fat chance!

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Here is my quest

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Yep, that is true for me, too!

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My influences on electric are primarily ZZ Top, Black Sabbath, Blue Oyster Cult, AC/DC, Metallica etc. so blues-rock and heavy rock/metal. And I think it shows.

But then I got more and more into proggy and fusiony stuff like Al di Meola, Chris Poland, Allan Holdsworth (mostly through his collabs with Ponty, Bruford and Gong).

On acoustic I think I'm pretty much influenced by Madredeus, Pedro Caldeira Cabral and to some extent Paco de Lucía (even though I'm not a flamenco player). Latin music in general influences me on the nylon guitar, but maybe some country players like Chet Atkins and Jerry Reed are worth mentioning too, I feel I have a little bit of country sometimes when I play fingerstyle on the nylon.

Some have mentioned my playing sometimes sounded like Al di Meola and Joe Satriani (that makes sense, I had quite a big Satriani phase and I really like some of Al's music, especially his electric stuff from late 70s and early 80s). Some mentioned John Scofield (which is quite odd because I very rarely listen to his music), maybe because of the blues influence. I can hear that on this track, sounds a bit Scofieldesque :

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But I think some could mention Andy Summers, this track for instance :

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Reminds me of stuff he did with The Police :

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Ok, enough talking about me, myself and I, enjoy the music! :)

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