Waterval: Bandcamp account

I find Bandcamp content incompatible with Wikiloops
Because Wikiloops pieces can't be used without permission for profit and Bandlab is a profit site
We experimented with an account
But how to handle that?
How should we change a Wikiloops track in order to legally enter it on Bandcamp?
Or maybe the private content of a Wikiloops band with the permission of all members would be more appropriate?
Requesting permissions is what slows down musical collaboration the most.
Maybe a warning at the start of a private band on Wikiloops that says:
By collaborating in this band you grant permission to publish on "this site"

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Even at the beginning of each jam template it would be nice to place a message:
If you add a track you grant publishing rights for "this project" (project details)

And this way the collaboration and permissions would be clearer from the start
And it would be a way to make visible projects of Wikiloops musicians that are currently hidden.

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I`m writing this as someone without any ambition to go "public" with any tracks or contributions. The charm of playing and creating on Wikiloops is based to a large degree on the fact that it`s a safe space. I can make imperfect (and sometimes really bad) additions to a track in the knowledge that it stays within the WL boundaries. If I had to automatically grant publishing rights, I think I would see WL only as a download repository for backing tracks I would use at home and no longer record and add anything.

It might be a different argument in the band context, but the way I understand it, a band as a defined group of invited members should have it pretty easy to all agree to publish joint band efforts.

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Just my opinion, but I would like to say that when something works so well precisely because it pushes commercialisation into a hopeless corner (as the wiki check boxes you tick do every time you upload a track), the wish to pick out the best bits to try and publish them elsewhere seems like completely missing what makes it tick. There are 1001 other sites focussed on exactly that.

It did take me a while to work out the effect of those check boxes which were a little worrying if I thought I had something good to post up - like kissing it goodbye, but that's exactly why it's so clever. Post up here and NOBODY will be interested in any attempt to commercialise it because it's already published. Think that's how it works.

Anyway, come on, be serious, 50,000 tracks a day are uploaded to spotify, nobody is listening to 99.99% of those tracks beyond family and friends. A sad lonely pursuit. :(

Here though, lots of musicians give your stuff a spin and join in if they like it. :)

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