AI on Wikiloops a no-go?
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PaulM44 wrote:
I suspect AI may be thought of the same way that DAW drummers are now used. It seems reasonable to use it to complete an idea that couldn’t be gotten any other way. When I get in front of my DAW I already feel like Superman compared with what I could accomplish just in front of a microphone without it. A drumming track could take a week or more (as a non-drummer). I have only used AI briefly for making images about a year ago and don’t intend to use it for music.
The scary thing about AI was the option of create an image “in the style of” (a famous artist). IF the same can be done with music by scraping websites, it might be possible for someone to decide to add sax in the style of Wade or guitar like one of the 5000 tracks from GlezBass. This is obviously a place to draw the line at acceptability but or perhaps it’s just a case of creator’s paranoia. It would be the difference in feeling between a button-pushing programmer and a real musician who would get guilt and no satisfaction from this kind of creation. I already feel that when inserting DAW loops unless it blends perfectly with something already partially finished.
Finally, because I accept that my work can easily be copied and repurposed elsewhere it actually makes me hope so—that someone likes it that much. :) The chance of being heard at all with the constant churn and ease of commercial sites to find new artists and sounds reduces the chance. I pay for Tidal as a way to practice and play with whole albums of my favorite artists (even from the ’60’s!) although I have less time for that as I have gotten more involved with WL. (Thank you).
Good post. I never use drum midi tracks created by someone else, I start from nothing each time and it takes a long, long time to do, likely over several weeks for a good one that isn't too repetitive though never as good as real drumming. Likewise loops - I do use them but I only loop things I played myself.I suspect AI may be thought of the same way that DAW drummers are now used. It seems reasonable to use it to complete an idea that couldn’t be gotten any other way. When I get in front of my DAW I already feel like Superman compared with what I could accomplish just in front of a microphone without it. A drumming track could take a week or more (as a non-drummer). I have only used AI briefly for making images about a year ago and don’t intend to use it for music.
The scary thing about AI was the option of create an image “in the style of” (a famous artist). IF the same can be done with music by scraping websites, it might be possible for someone to decide to add sax in the style of Wade or guitar like one of the 5000 tracks from GlezBass. This is obviously a place to draw the line at acceptability but or perhaps it’s just a case of creator’s paranoia. It would be the difference in feeling between a button-pushing programmer and a real musician who would get guilt and no satisfaction from this kind of creation. I already feel that when inserting DAW loops unless it blends perfectly with something already partially finished.
Finally, because I accept that my work can easily be copied and repurposed elsewhere it actually makes me hope so—that someone likes it that much. :) The chance of being heard at all with the constant churn and ease of commercial sites to find new artists and sounds reduces the chance. I pay for Tidal as a way to practice and play with whole albums of my favorite artists (even from the ’60’s!) although I have less time for that as I have gotten more involved with WL. (Thank you).
Last year 100,000 tracks were uploaded to streaming platforms every single day. Commercialisation is next to impossible but is that really bad? Only for pros. I kind of like that music has become such a mainstream hobby and that we can create pleasing sounding music at home very cheaply. Also without commercial pressure one would think everyone is free to follow their muse rather than fashion. AI can make supermarket background slush, it's welcome to it.
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