Krasimir wrote:
Yes all new things should be considered, but with careful review. Any how Al is just helping tool. B)
AI is designed to be a replacement for musicians and composers. It is not designed as a "helping tool". It may be that some here are trying to think of it and use it that way, however it's (to my mind) impossible to define the level of "help". If it's here at all then it will take a huge amount of someone's time to police this so that we aren't flooded with AI tracks. In one recent case it was the member's lyrics that were used, but what we hear is 100% computer generated band and vocals. How do you distinguish this from someone who only gave AI instructions of "pop tune with sad lyrics 3 minutes long"? They push the go button and have however many songs they want come up ready to post.
Please think about this as All I'm hearing from those that wish to have AI here is how they wish to use it without a thought as to what the consequences might be for the site, or how "limited" use could happen without a huge amount of time for policing this. In the example given the moderator would need to somehow find a way to establish that the member wrote the lyrics first. How do you do that? You could just give your instructions to AI, copy the lyrics they provide, post them on the site, then post the AI track a few days later. If you think this isn't likely or possible think again.
We have had taggers here that just wanted their name on as many tracks as possible. We also have had members who brought copyright material here and posted it as their own. There are potentially millions of people who would like to push a button and have music come out the other end that they put their name to.
AI requires banning as it's impossible for me to see how this can be monitored, and the examples that have already shown up make this obvious. The alternative is for this site to be no different/better than all the other sites that will tolerate AI. If that happens I can guarantee you that many/most will abandon Wikiloops. Someone ( one of us?) will then develop a site that will ban all AI and cater to musicians who wish to continue to work together to make REAL music.
Once again think about this folks. Do you wish to publish your tracks on a site where you may have had some input, but it's really an AI track and whatever that's real about your track is swamped by thousands of AI tracks that are just from button pushers? If you are at heart a musician first, the answer should be obvious.